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the cia did, and when they crossed the did we couldn't talk to one another. in iraq we have begun. >> would you explain because the students may not understand why we have that gap. >> it was there for good and legitimate reasons which is we didn't want our foreign intelligence agency being active inside the country and perhaps this body, to use that word of the domestic event on american citizens and so forth, so the cia was cut with the foreign intelligence agencies. the fbi that operated under the rules and the wall, think law and order, the fbi was the internal intelligence agency. well, just to give you one example, a few nights before 9/11, a telephone call was made in san diego by one of the men who would ultimately be the suicide a hijacker to afghanistan, but we couldn't track across the boundary because we didn't want the tracking of the phone calls inside of the united states by the foreign intelligence. so, what i like to have known what he said a couple days before 9/11? when he realized that of course we had an internal attack on the security, we had to sew up the ga

me as odd. you get talking points on november 16. patreaus told congress the c.i.a. didn't change the talking points. white house and state said they didn't do it. white house told the news changes were made because they pt didn't want al qaeda tipped off and the director of national intelligence said they made the changes because the al qaeda links were too tenuous. then they said the f.b.i. did it and the morrell said i did say f.b.i. i didn't mean f.b.i. i meant c.i.a. and then panetta said he believed at the time it was a preplanned terrorist atafnlg you can see for people it looks like there's a great deal of confusion there, yes? >> there's always confusion when you have a tragedy of that sort and americans are killed. the bigger, tragedy, though, jon, is we spent all of these months trying to figure out origin of talking points which were cleared at the highest levels of the intelligence community. in my opinion, not enough time doing the service we owe to our fallen colleagues. >> jon: this gets to my point though. this gets to my point. [cheers and applause] i think that'

the cia to disrupt an fbi investigation and to lie to the fbi, that the fbi should not look into the sources of funding that was later used by the watergate burglars for national security reasons. don't look into it because it would open a cia operation. it is not true, but the president wanted to use the cia to protect a political shenanigan, a political crime, and use the national security exemption as a cover-up. >> your interview was done in 2008. robert bork was still alive. here he is talking about the smoking gun tape. >> what was your reaction when you heard of the smoking gun tape? >> dismay, but not surprised. >> could you develop that a little? >> i was sorry to see the last nail hammered into the coffin. but i was not so terribly surprised there was a smoking gun. george called me and said, look, we're going into court in about five minutes. i want to tell you that there is an 18 and 1/2 minute gap in the tape. that surprised me and dismayed me. you cannot show up with an 18 1/2 minute gap. that would suspect something. >> how would that affect being on the supre

in germany and the cia never called the fbi for weeks wanting the results of the interview before they made their assessments. we are going back to the pre9/11 mentality of where we treat this as a law enforcement function and the fbi and cia never talked to each other which is dangerous. benghazi was system failure before, during and after. >> chris: senate republicans also talking about holding up the nomination of john brennan the president's chief counter terrorism advisor to head the cia and rand paul your colleague who will be on after the break says one of the things he wants to be sure is that a president can't order a drone attack against an american citizen without a judicial review. is senator paul wrong? >> i think the worst thing in the world is to have the courts decide who to target in the war on terrorism. courts are not military commanders. the commander in chief has the right under law and authorization to use military force to designate the enemy. i think we do need drones to patrol our borders but i don't think you need a drone to attack an al-qaeda operative within the

has an update. >> the president's pick to lead the c.i.a. counterterrorism advisor john brennan faces new and up comfortable obstacles about the benghazi terrorist attack and the administration handling of the suspect al-harzi. this letter pushes them to explain disparity between his sworn testimony and that of former secretary of state hillary clinton. >> they insisted that the tunisia authorities did not have the evidence to keep him in custody. >> tunisias did not have a basis in their law to hold him. >> so they released him? >> they did. >> where is he? >> still in tunisia. >> it doesn't sound like a good system to work with partners. >> they work the way we do. >> f.b.i. interviewed him for two hours in december after weeks of delay and following the personal intervention of the republican senator lindsey graham. he seemed to minimize the suspect's release. claiming the u.s. case was weak. >> we didn't have anything on him either or we would have made point to tunisias to turn him over to us. >> two weeks earlier in the benghazi hearing, secretary clinton said she spoke with mue

is in their interest. in my past role as cia director, she has tried to understand the importance of intelligence. she understood the importance of doing everything we could do to be able to go after those who would attack our country on 9/11. as a senator, she saw the terror of that moment first hand. she never lost sight of we had to after those who attack us on 9/11 and use every capability we had. during the bin laden operation, there is a movie out on this. [laughter] you know, the guy who plays me is not quite right -- [laughter] i mean, my preference would have been pacino. [laughter] but you know, i have been asked about that. i lived through that operation. there is no way you can take all the work that was done even in the last four years or two years of that operation that i was involved in. you can put that into a two-hour movie. the fact is that there was a tremendous amount of teamwork involved both by our intelligence and military officials. they did a tremendous job. it came down to a tough decision that the president had to make. god bless him, he made a tough decision. hillary clinto

that will change, a lot of this -- all of this is being done by the cia. well, most of it. drones in particular except in explicit war theaters like afghanistan or iraq where the military does control them is controlled by the cia. i think one thing that the new secretary of defense -- assuming he's confirmed -- hagel, some of the things he wants to do is to turn this back over to the military so that at least it's not embroiled in secrecy at the very beginning. we don't know anything about it. so at least it will be out many the open a bit which i think is a good thing. >> what was the level, if any, of petraeus in the writing of the book, and what is his reaction after being published? >> well, you know, i interviewed about 110 people for this book including petraeus. one thing about petraeus, he has always been very solicitous of reporters, including me, i have to admit. now, he has two motives, and everybody knows it. one is he kind of likes hanging around with reporters. but second, he sees it as what the military would call information operations or, as the french less euphemistically cal

. >> i don't think we should let brennan go forward for the cia directorship and hagel to be confirmed until the white house gives us an accounting. >> is it fair to say you are leaning against voting for him. >> that would be fair. >> maybe that's why we haven't heard the full story about benghazi. >> allow myself to introduce myself. >> keep in mind, a lot of the sources are spies and for the most part spies don't like their names used. >> my name is richie cunningham. ♪ how you like me now ♪ how you like me now ♪ remember the time >> good afternoon, and we start in washington where we can observe two very different ways in which we might honor those who serve with this country's armed forces. first, the president led a medal of honor ceremony for staff sergeant clinton remache whose actions during an attack helped save the lives of dozens of his comrades. and then there is the concerted effort by republicans to deny another distinguished veteran from serving his country as secretary of defense. a senate committee scheduled to vote on the nomination of chuck hagel tomorrow. sen

't talk to the secretary of defense or didn't talk to the c.i.a. chief after that. what was the president dag that night? >> boy i just-- i don't remember it that way bob. and in fact letter we sent to capitol hill earlier this week said that secretary of state clinton called the libyan-- >> schieffer: we know that. >>eeo behalf of the president and we carried out a very robust reaction to the situation on behalf of the-- >> schieffer: were you aware of what was happening? >> throughout the night. not only were we briefing him we were convene the united states government, the deputy's committee and the national security council and i will we worked it throughout the night. the secretary of defense the chairman of the joint chiefs worked this throughout the night. here's the important thing bob. we did everything we could that night-- which by the way was borne out by the review board. they said the washington-based effort was a good effort that did everything it it possible could have. but the question from the president now is mao-- what have we condition to make sure this does not happe

news sunday." then, senators grill the president's nominee for cia director over the targeted killing of terrorist suspects. we will ask our sunday panel about new demands to lift the veil on drone strikes. and our power player of the week can tell you almost everything the president does and how you often he does it. all right now on "fox news sunday." >> chris: and hello again from fox news in washington. when president obama delivers his state of the union is speech tuesday, one big issue will be sequestration. $85 billion in automatic spending cuts due to kick in march 1. the white house now warns this will mean damaging layoffs of teachersers law enforcement and food safety inspectors and the pentagon will be hit, too. they propose a mix of spending cuts and, yes, more taxes through limiting deductions for the wealthy. i sat down late friday with house democratic leader nancy pelosi and asked her are about the fast approaching deadline. congress woman pa lo pelosi, we back to "fox news sunday." >> welcome to the capitol. >> the white house says sequestration will have a severe ef

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for the cia directorship, hagel to be confirmed to secretary of defense until the white house gives us an accounting. >> bill: i want more -- so he says he wants to know what now, by the way, remember lindsey graham started out by saying, i am not going to -- we are not going to move forward with hagle unless we get the secretary, of state, herself to testify on benghazi. she did. so then, he said, no, we are not going to move forward unless we get leon panetta to come forward. so did john brennan and they have had three freakin hearings on the senate. what more do they want? now lindsey graham says, i want to know minute by minute everything that president obama did the night of the benghazi attack, you know, which is absurd. congress cannot make a demand like that. by the way, maybe they should give us minute by minute what george bush did after the september attacks after he was running around the attacks. >> we know what he was doing for about seven minutes after the attack, reading "my pet goat." lindsey graham says, here, more. >> i am going to ask

. i couldn't believe the vice president was saying this and doing work with the cia through all the briefings i heard at langley, i never saw one piece of credible evidence that there was an ongoing program. >> this is what's so stunning about your report tonight, your book and everything. just documents the fact that the people who knew more than the big shots in the white house, including cheney, knew it wasn't there, that he just bs'd his way into that war. >> cheney said there was no doubt in that -- >> that's his avuncular manner. >> no doubt they were amassing weapons to attack the united states with. ziny and many others within the intelligence and national security establishment which we read about in the book through this was plenty of doubt that in all the major factors that they would bring to wear, aluminum tubes and yellow cake there, was always dissent, someone saying we're not so sure about this intelligence. it's rather iffy. >> why did cheney say otherwise? >> ziny, just to underscore how significant it was, he was centcom commander since 2007. his view of the i

. on their face i don't expect the senate to reject mr. brennan for cia chief, and despite mr. hagel's troubles in the confirmation hearing, i don't expect he will be blocked as a matter of substance or his performance in the hearings. but it is true that if a couple of senators decide to hold things up because they want more answers, it gives the administration a choice. it can either go to bat against the republicans and say they're being unreasonable, they're being political, they need to back down, or they could make a decision we just want to get this thing through, let's try to give them enough information to satisfy them and get it over with. jon: a mouthpiece for the administration in this situation said these are critical national security positions, and individual members -- meaning senators -- shouldn't play politics with their nominations. but isn't that what happens at every nomination, the senators trot out their list of wants, you know, information wise from the administration and use some leverage? >> yes, i mean -- well, jon, that's what advise and consent ultimately means. it

. -- poised to run for governor. and the military may take over drones for the cia. that's the charlotte observer with that on the front page. also, the los angeles times has this -- the front page of the miami herald has a story about who is behind the scenes for a senator marco rubio. back to your favorite president. matthew in tacoma, washington, democrat. go ahead. is jackson your favorite? caller: it's richard nixon, because he's such a devilish character, but he also did stuff like opening up china. host: all right. we're featuring nixon on american history tv. you can watch on c-span3. we will look at his legacy and the 1993 atf raid in waco, texas. long beach, independent caller, neal. you are on the air? moving on. charles, atlanta, georgia, democrat, hi. caller: hi. our greatest president was john f. kennedy, by far. the reason is because he gave us the good society speech in which he warned americans about the secret societies that were determined to take over america and the change america fundamentally. he was the only president that had the guts to look out for americans. w

, not through the c.i.a. they essentially went out there, these groups of guys went out. there were targeted kills. what they did was they really stirred up a hornet's nest. >>gretchen: part of the problem was was qaddafi was working with the united states at the time of his demise. people didn't like him because he was a ruthless dictator. but he had turned andg the unit. when he was taken out, the rebel groups coming together were not necessarily all good guys. part of this book is alleging, there was a secret covert mission by the united states hand-picking each these people, and maybe that's why we haven't heard the full story about benghazi. at least that's what this 80-page book is saying. >>brian: can you imagine not telling the c.i.a. director that you're assassinating al qaeda. can you imagine not telling the ambassador. why would he be driving around the country at all basically armed without an armored car and a huge cadre of security officials if he knew that al qaeda was going to be looking for revenge because they have a habit of not liking to be assassinated? this is all going

interviews and denying and forgetting what happened in the u.s. mission and a c.i.a. safe house in bengazi in september 11th 2012, protecting the boss is critical despite the fact he won reelection with a campaign unsullied by the hint that his team misguided the attack. we found out the president went missing that night as four americans fought for their lives and lost. this latest startling tidbit that obama was out of the touch with with testimony from leon paneta and in a letter senate to the senate runs by the white house. they demanded answers to key questioning, questions. did anyone get in touch with the libya government to get help. white house said no, not that night but the following. september 12th after the u.s. ambassador and three other mirns met their deathings. it turns out former secretary of state clinton and mr. obama spoke to each other during the attack but neither involved the secretary of defense or the chairman of the joint chiefs. after a regularly scheduled half hour briefing in the late afternoon, both men were basically out of the loop while bengazi burned for

. >> president of his nominee for cia director john brennan accused iran of pursuing nuclear weapons in made the comment during his confirmation hearing. tehran and in taez o brennanhn enbridge >> john read your response? >> this has been the position for quite some time. even though the intelligence of all of the p-5 indicates there is not been a decision to weaponized, the belief is the iranians are moving toward a nuclear weapons capability, but in everything in order to be able to make that decision if they so choose. as a result, there is the impression the window is closing in order to be able to address this peacefully. in order to really exhaust all of the options to resolve this peacefully, there has to negotiations that are far more intense, far more serious from both sides. both sides have so far gone to the table and essentially offer the other side ultimatums' rather than engaging in proper negotiations. both sides have been working on taking or more accepting of taking a risk for the status quo or even escalation in accepting risks for peace making. >> a want ask about chuck ha

is the president's pick to lead the pentagon. brennan is in line for lead the cia. >> i do believe if he had picked up the phone, called the libyan government, these folks could have gotten out of the airport to the annex and the last two guys may very well be alive and if he did call the libyan officials and they sort of blew him off, that will affect whether or not i would give foreign aid in the future to libya. but if he failed to call on behalf of those people under edge, thennic that is a massive failure of leadership by our commander in chief. >> -- under siege, then i think that is a massive failure of leadership by our commander in chief. >>> grammy's top prize. we'll show you who walked away as the night's big winners. we'll tell you about it when we come back. [ anouncer ] ihop is in time square to compare new griddle-melts to your usual breakfast sandwich. a lot more flavor. [ anouncer ] ihop's new griddle melts... made fresh and hot! hand crafted just for you. it's like a sexy sandwich. [ anouncer ] compare new griddle melts yourself. just $4.99. it's an epic breakfast sandwich. [ fema

to ruin it if you haven't seen it, seven c.i.a. employees were killed. i went out to the memorial service in my congressional district at langley where i watched the young kids, one little kid had a blazer on and khakis and i watched them come in. the team that replaced the team that was killed, were at a pay freeze for three years. the agent who stopped that young boy from being killed down in alabama, just rounded up a taliban terrorist in california, pay raise. no, freeze for three years. over the last five years one i.c.e. agent killed, one secret service agent killed, three a.t.f. agents killed, one d.e.a. agent killed, two u.s. marshals killed, air traffic controller to put the safety for my family and your family and our constituents as they fly through the sky, the n.i.h. my family has been devastated my cancer. my father died at cancer. my mother died of cancer and it's impacted on my family. dr. collins, who mapped the human genome system that will save many of you and your lives and your sons and daughters because of basically following that system, working on liver cancer, pro

the attention then will move to john brennan to be the cia director. we have the hearings last week and roughed up by a couple of senators. overall i'm struck by the volume of outrage of congress which is sort of, you know, to date, left out of this entire decision make process about drones and sort of the, you know, talking -- getting any information about what's happened after the drones go out and kill people. are you surprised, jonathan, by the lack of sort of, you know, audible outrage from congress over this? >> i think you've got two things at work. one is that the republicans largely agree with the president's targeted killing program, that is to say drone strikes and other ways of killing top targeted terrorists on a very individual basis. and you've got most democrats either agree with the policy or willing to give president of their own party a lot of leash on it and hearing the very far left and far right with concerns and then occasionally some of the folks in the middle expressing concerns and probably not the type of concerns to lead them to stop the president from having the def

-mails that came to light during the resignation of cia director david petraeus. allen exchanged e-mails with tampa socialite joe kelly, and even though a subsequent review cleared allen of any inappropriate activity, yesterday defense secretary leon panetta said allen has been under a tremendous amount of pressure and urged the general to take some time on whether decides whether to take or leave the nato post. >>> turning to the markets and a corporate marriage on valentine's day, american airlines and us airways have formally announced plans to merge, creating the world's largest air carrier. that happens about every three years, doesn't it? this new airline will keep the american name and its ceo. it will offer 6,700 daily flights to nearly 60 countries. it's not the only big deal on wall street today. berkshire hathaway and 3g capital have agreed to buy heinz, a deal valued at more than $23 billion. the news sent the kech yaup maker's stock up more than 20%. should make for an interesting new closure report the next time we look at the john kerry and teresa heinz kerry scloefr reports. up next

be the choice to lead the cia. he would be much more directly involved in the benghazi matter, but this is a way to try to pressure the administration to provide information that congress believes it has a right to have. now, the white house could certainly argue that what the president was doing or what time he went to bed, those sorts of questions, are sort of under an executive privilege. they don't have to tell them about that. it does have a political question. how engaged was the president once he was notified at 5:00 p.m. by secretary panetta that there was an unfolding assault happening in benghazi. those are things that came out through recent testimony through panetta, and the joint chiefs chair that had he had not spoken to the president again after initially informing hem. that created a new sort of political oxygen for republicans who want to know if there was a missing ambassador, what was the president doing, and, of course, the white house says that he was being properly informed by his national security team and so forth, but there are questions they want to know. crediting the

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carolina, is to block two nominees. he will hold up defense secretary john brennan as the head of cia unless he gets more answers on benghazi. here is what he had to say yesterday. [video clip] >> did the president ever pick up the phone and call anyone in the government to help these folks? what the the president do? we know he talked to the israeli prime minister on september 11 about a gust of the democratic platform and the fact he did not need the prime minister of israel when he came to new york. but that is not related. what did he do that night? the american people need to know. >> i am not sure i understand, what do you plan to do if they do not give you an answer? are you going to put a hold on these nominations? >> yes, i am going to ask my colleagues. no confirmation without information. host: senator lindsay gramm on face the nation yesterday. our coverage begins at 8:00 p.m. eastern time tomorrow night. if you go to our facebook page, we have this for all of you. if you are low -- if you are planning on watching president obama will deliver the state of the union tomorro

doing here? there are various -- the u.s. military and the c.i.a. have used these drones to kill scores of high-level terrorist leaders. but there is a huge downside. it is the innocent civilians that are killed and now, it is a questionable use of them against people who are american citizens and the claim by the executive branch that they can do this. execute an american without any semblance of due process. >> bill: and justify it by saying well, we couldn't capture -- it would be difficult or impossible to capture them. and that they're an imminent threat. when you look in the paper as to what constitutes an imminent threat, it is not really an imminent threat. sometime in the future they might be a threat. pretty scary stuff. >> there is definitely constitutional issues here and whether -- just because this person is in yemen, we can kill them. if they were in the bronx can we kill them? what's the difference there? and also the blowback issue. many, many people believe that the drone attacks in pakistan have enraged the pakistani population against the united states. >> bill: some

in confirming some of president obama's key appointees. chuck hagel at defense, john brennan at the cia, and now senator mccain saying he is not ready to call it a day on all of this. a congress hearing -- >> then you ought to have your facts straight. >> reporter: after congressional hearing. >> who responsible then? >> reporter: republican senator john mccain challenge, the white house on its response to benghazi. now he is going further on nbc's "meet the press." >> so there are many, many questions and we have had a massive cover-up. >> a cover-up of what? i'm just saying you, a cover-up of what? >> i'll be glad to send you a list of questions that have not been answered. >> reporter: the white house says it's given answers. conducted 20 briefings for congress. officials have testified at ten hearings, answered how queries. it all adds up to 10,000 pages of documents. just last week, mccain himself told cnn recent responses on benghazi were, quote, adequate. so, is this just politics? when we asked mccain's office what other questions the senator still had, we were referred to this january p

, when leon panetta was nominated to be c.i.a. director, i talked to a number of our c.i.a. personnel in varies parts of the world and they were concerned. leon didn't have a background in intelligence. i said -- my response was anybody who has been chief of staff to the president of the united states can handle any job in the united states government. and, of course, leon went on to prove that, so much so that for his next position he was confirmed 100-0 as secretary of defense. therefore, that is by way of saying to you, obviously, i support your nomination. you have handled that job of chief of staff very well. the other thing i wanted to say was, there was a problem when you were chief of staff with o.m.b. in that o.m.b. was continuing to try to run this country's space program. i went to you and you started ma sodging, that the nasa got to run the space program without o.m.b. folks saying you do this, you do that. are senator rockefeller cheers to the committee. i want to thank you for that. because what you did was -- you smoothed it out so that senator kay bailey hutchinson and

brennan's nomination to become director of the cia. he oversaw many of the drone strikes from his washington office. they will be taking the denominations of john brennan and chalk a goal this week. holler later this week, meeting to discuss and vote the hagel nomination. you can watch it live on c-span 3. those are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. >> having observed a steady improvements in the opportunity and well-being of our citizens, i can report to you, the state of this old but useful union is good. >> once again, in keeping with time-honored traditions, i have come to inform you on the state of the union and i am pleased to import that america is much improved and there is reason to believe that it will continue. >> my duty tonight is to report on the state of the union, not the state of our government, but of our american community. and i set forth our responsibilities, in the words of our founders, to form a more perfect union. the state of the union is from. >> as we gather tonight, our nation is at war, our economy is in recession, and the civilized world

so effective. in my pastoral as the cia director, she was someone who understood the importance of intelligence and intelligence operations. understood the importance of doing everything to be able to go after those who attacked our country on 9/11. as a senator, she saw the terror of that moment firsthand. you know, she had never lost sight of the fact that we had to go after those who attacked us on 9/11 and use every capability that we have. she was always there supporting our mission and operations, and i appreciate that support. particularly during the bin laden operation. they there is a movie out on us. the guy who plays me is not quite right. [laughter] i mean, my preference would have been someone else. [laughter] but the truth -- i've been asked about that. the fact is that i lived through that operation. there is no way you can take 10 years of all the work that has been done, even in the last four years or two years after that operation i was involved with. there is no way you can take that and put it into a two-hour movie. the fact is there was a tremendous amount o

. george h. w. bush only serve one term as president but many years of federal service with the cia and as u.n. ambassador. he decided not to take the health benefits. he does not receive those. you can decline and that any time. bill clinton and george w. bush both receive health benefits. host: what kind of health care are they getting? guest: they are receiving the same health benefits and the federal pensioner would get in federal service. host: the same that members of congress get. what does that include? is that better than medicare? guest: i think it is exactly the same. i do not think it is better than medicare. it is what every federal employee uses. i am a federal employee. i enjoy my health benefits. i am assuming they are about the same. host: margaret from tennessee, independent caller. caller: they also extend the secret service powers under mr. cheney. the reason they have done this is because i think both men are cowards. they think they have to have protection. i cannot believe they would not give you an amount when you called the government and asked how much this

vowed to hold up his secretary of defense nominee, chuck hagel, and his cia director nominee john brennan. >> i interviewed mitch mcconnell tonight on our show. he was very definite. he said we are not going to have any revenue increases. and he also said no last-minute dpoeshg on the sequester. that was a tough thought. >> stylistically some interesting things to look for. it's a speech led by a new chief speechwriter and we haven't mentioned this point -- >> the president with sonia sotomayor, the first latina justice, elana kagan. >> it's includes ted nugent, texas congressman invited as his guest, and tony bennett, the guest of nancy pelosi. >> i was on the plane today with tony bennett, and it was a thrill. it was great. >> an illustration of how politics, political alliance has changed. the mrez shook hands with joe man chon, he will be on our program after this. joe manchian was shown firing a gun into the obama health agenda and now he is trying to work with the president. >> who has taken a marked turn in his view, you could argue that since newtown. we'll take a brief pa

of the budget committee, o.m.b., president's chief of staff, head of the c.i.a., secretary of defense -- he, after all these years, has gone home to his farm and his family in california. we do not have at 12:00 today a secretary of defense. these across-the-board cuts are going to be very difficult. the pentagon needs a leader to oversee and manage historic cuts and ensure they're made in a responsible way. just a minute about senator hagel. he was an enlisted man in the vietnam war. he didn't have to go. he enlisted. the story of senator hagel is not a legend; it's true. he was an heroic warrior, an infantryman. he saved his brother' brother's. when he was a senator -- he saved his brother's life. when he was a senator here, the picture on his wall was of he and his brother in vietnam on a carrier. he's proud of his service. he should be. wounded two times, an infantry squad leader, a man of integrity and dedication. he has a deep understanding of our national security establishment. gained not only from his military service but as a united states no member o senator, meme foreign intelli

at the cia. jack lew is undergoing questioning now and getting roughed up a bit. and right now his nomination may or may not be held up. what's the republican end game here? it's just not good for the national party brand. >> no, i don't think it is good, joe. and you've seen all this up close before. i think this is just a moment of leverage here. i mean, look. the president's got leverage on his domestic agenda right now. he's used his leverage after the election on taxes. you know, this is some leverage that republicans have to get some questions answered, to send some messages, to fire some shots across the bow. they're doing that. the white house is listening, by the way. it's mostly vice president biden who's talking to some of these more recalcitrant republicans and making sure they get what they need so they can get some of this stuff behind them. issues like benghazi. you know, i don't think there's any real issue with lew. as you know on the brennan matter, i mean, rand paul is kind of off in his own silo, if you will. i don't think he's got a great deal of support, you know, in ter

of all, when leon panetta was nominated to be the cia director, i talked to a number of forced personnel in various parts of the world and they were concerned because he didn't have a background in intelligence and i said my eighth response was anyone who has been chief of staff to the president of the united states can handle anyone in the united states government, and of course he went on to prove that because so much so for his next position he was confirmed 100 to nothing in the secretary of defense and therefore it is by way of saying obviously our support your nomination. you handled the job of chief of staff very well. and the other thing i wanted to say is there was a problem when you were the chief of staff in that omb was continuing to try to run this country's space program, and i went to you and you started to massage and perhaps is the best way that the nasa administrator scot to run the space program without the omb folks saying you do this, you do that pursuant to directives given in the act which senator rockefeller chairs the commerce committee. and i want to thank you f

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